Here's one good piece of reading from Renner on this topic: https://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2018/04/phone-records-suggest-bill-rausch-knew.html, "Opening statements were heard. Maura Murray came up a lot. Or there could be a note they didnt tell me about this seems unlikely as they shared everything else with us. We went to NH on extended trips several times. I found a stack of the originals the other day. I should note, Im not wedded to a theory I just want to know what happened and where shes at. Perhaps, like in Rust Creek a local spotted a girl alone on the side of the road and pulled over to offer "help" while actually having evil intentions. So saying she was competitive is incomplete in my mind. Bottom line, there isnt as much secrecy as you suggest. That said, I recall vividly going thru security at OKC and then listening to the VM there. I read an old letter the other day where she starts it off, I think Im back in my phish phase!, She loved twizzlers and fire balls! Thats their choice and its my choice too. In mid July I collected and organized his answers. Kate Pattison caught in a mantrap in her former office building, moments before she was assaulted in 2011. I dont recall taking photos. Earlier this month, New Hampshire state troopers and FBI agents searched a home near the spot Murray was last seen but found no evidence of human remains, the Boston Globe reported. NH has not released her phone records to anyone with or without redactions. (LogOut/ One of the earliest police theories about this befuddling missing-person case was that Maura Murray had either planned to kill herself or had been consumed by suicidal thoughts after her final car accident. Hes also not around to defend himself. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Rausch was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma on the night Murray disappeared and has adamantly denied any involvement. However, radiocarbon dating in November revealed that the remains were far older than Murray. Maura Murray is Missing reports he attempted to call the police, but he did not have any cell phone coverage. The email Maura sent her HS friends that someone recently posted is a good source for that. So , after the wreck, could she have got a ride to a hotel and paid in cash? District Line Daily: Our news, politics, arts, food, and sports coverage in one email every weekday. IMO they made numerous mistakes, esp in the early days. I called Maura and her best friend to see if she was okay. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. And by 7:46 p.m., Murray had disappeared. I do not recall skulking any. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9yh305/can_we_talk_about_maura_murray_and_her_boyfriend/. That said, we obvi didnt search far or fast enough. Pattison says Rausch once told her it was unprofessional for women to wear pants in the office, and that I should wear skirts or dresses.. Starting around May 2020, weve been lucky to have the participation of Bill Rausch on reddit. Heck, his effort searching for Maura is unmatched as far as I know relative to other missing persons cases. Bill Rausch | Blog. Practically speaking I wanted to pass the information along. I took the police at their word. I do know they listened to it bc I remember standing/sitting beside one or both members of the NHSP involved in the search and playing them the VM several times. The Discovery ID episode does a good job of providing details re when I received the VM, and what I thought of it at the time using my own words. And Bill "would also refer to [the victim] during sex as Maura, the name of his ex-girlfriend who went missing in 2004. She was up there as an infant. Atwood said that he had offered to call the cops at the scene of the crash, but the woman claimed that she had already called roadside assistance. Maura Murray Theory. Just a couple months earlier, Murray stole credit card information from a fellow student, which would lead some to believe that she was not only a petty thief, but possibly did not have the money or credit allowance to purchase things. She def shouldnt have been driving the Saturn but am I surprised she did? In the years since Maura Murray went missing, amateur sleuths have explored all of these ideas and more. I can say confidentially that Maura was likely not mentally ill. She did however have issues and challenges. There is a TON of hard evidence that shows they totally dropped the ball in taking Mauras disappearance seriously and it seems that trend has continued which is really disappointing. We never found ourselves in a situation that we couldn't handle physically. I truly don't see how any rational person could read this stuff and still argue that Bill should not be considered a prime suspect in the disappearance of Maura. When reading the details JR has presented Im still shocked but sadly not surprised its definitely a case of reading between the lines here , we have never heard anything official about Billys alibi or clearance on this case. There is no third phone. This may be tangential but was she worried that "someone" may be able to track her location by hacking into credit card payment details if she paid for anything l a card? Hacking was not as prevalent as it is today (assuming the was someone in her life that could hack into financial institutions). This was when we were told that Maura would prob show up in a day or two, we asked a few questions, and gave some answers to LE questions./We all stayed at the Wells River Motel every night. What was going through my mind? His and Maura's cell phone records are telling. Id like to think they followed up but given the other mistakes LE made, I just dont know. Robert Hansen: The Alaskan Serial Killer Who Hunted His Victims Like Animals, 44 Striking Portraits Of Native American Culture In The Early 20th Century, What Stephen Hawking Thinks Threatens Humankind The Most, 27 Raw Images Of When Punk Ruled New York, Join The All That's Interesting Weekly Dispatch. Pattison was 22 at the time, working her first job out of college, and Rausch was a superior. On Erinn's podcast . I remember you could hear the water running underneath of the snow/ice. He said that he could not see the womans car from his house, but he did see other cars passing by on the road. It was an unforgettable weekend. Not only was it a place with fond childhood memories it was a place that remained a key part of her life. I dont recall if or how police made or received a copy. Though Murray was unharmed, the car was seriously damaged. What disappoints me most about this community is the misinfo about Maura. re FBI, NHSP also refused to ask them for help after receiving a tip Maura was seen at a gas station off an exit north on I-91 in VT. My father and I drove there to investigate and the woman who called in the tip had left work and we were unable to interview her at this point we had already met several neighbors near the accident scene who had not spoken with police so we were conducting our own interviews and then sharing them with LE. Fred knew the area better than us (my folks are from Ohio, the McDonalds lived near USMA) of course, everyone in the Murray fam knew it better than us as well. There was a broad passion she had for hiking that included a goal of hiking all the 4,000 ft mountains in NH. And was this the first time he tried to call Maura while he was out east. I've also had the opportunity to share memories of Maura and answer questions from numerous community leaders, including, The Captain, co-host of True Crime Garage. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. If nothing else, he's provided nothing in the way of help to locate her or increase awareness regarding her disappearance (strage). At 7:27 p.m. on February 9, 2004, a woman named Faith Westman called the police in Haverhill, New Hampshire to report a car accident on Route 112. If several of us were at the station, two would peel off. Still, Atwood called the police anyway once he arrived home about 100 yards away from the accident. I dont think its likely but anything is possible and everyone/everything should be looked at as Julie has said. It happened to Maura. Its still unclear whether that person was actually Murray. To be clear, we were able to see our own footprints in the snow from the search for days after going over a period of ground. In the same vein I dont see how it humanizes Maura to say that she and Kate had an orgy with respectable business men which was said by a common poster on this sub. My mother and I have never believed that Maura wasnt at the accident scene bc there is no evidence to support that. She says Rausch asked her to follow him into an office and that he needed to talk to her. I received the VM while going through airport security at the Roy Rogers airport in OKC, the morning of Feb 11.. That said, Im not suggesting they are bad folks bc I dont know their reasons. My parents picked me up at the airport after driving there from Ohio and the three of us drove north to Haverhill, NH to see Fred/LE and check into the hotel. Some have speculated that she started a new life for herself perhaps even in Canada to escape her legal issues and the drama that was unfolding in her personal life. I was aware that Fred was visiting and they were car shopping that weekend. I was there, and everyday we would take multiple trips to the police station to check in. On her love of New Hampshire and of hiking. [On 116/112] It doesnt have a road number on it but yeah that looks right. When the NHSP said it wasnt her, it didnt change much as it pertained to our search. Maura Murrays boyfriend Bill Rausch has been accused of sexual misconduct against other women. re Butch Atwood, again I do not want to comment on him despite having met and spoken with him in 2004. We printed off the phone records at the police station bc LE were waiting on a subpoena. For years I continued to believe it was her. The Murrays would prob be the best folks to confirm if Maura took solo trips to NH. I dont know and I wouldnt say thats an attack on her. Maura was an above average athlete. At 7:46 p.m., the first responding officer had arrived on the scene. According to the link below, classes at UMass started on Wed. Jan 28, 2004. https://www.fivecolleges.edu/academics/academic_calendars/academic_calendar_03-04. Same goes for Maura from what I recall. Of that, Im certain. Though some have stuck to the suicide or accidental death theories, others think that she was abducted. I witnessed police make many mistakes; however, that suggests they were incompetent. Mauras connection to the White Mountains was real. Yes, people have made personal decisions to speak with some bloggers and not others. The vehicle was locked and the airbags had been deployed. I wasnt able to stop listening to the VM and other things until I deployed to Iraq in 2006 where I was forced to focus on things that didnt allow me time or mental head space to think about Maura or much of anything else. Olympic Sports, Savage Love With regard to LE having my phone, again, totally possible altho I do not remember it. I do not think she slept in her dorm that night, scared of Bill, but left the FU shrine that he saw . Obvi we knocked on all those doors. Then Maura would go out and smoke the competition. I will attempt to keep updating this. A review of his phone records revealed a 3 minute call to Maura's cell phone the Saturday after the disappearance, when he was in New Hampshire as part of the search. Bill Rausch is in DC court again, today, this time for a civil trial to determine whether his latest victim will get a protection order against him. Mumble Sauce, About Us That said, Ive never found it odd Maura went back to Feds hotel room. On whether or not Maura was planning to return. Events, Football An Army spokesman writes in an emailed statement that they are aware of the indictment and will continue to review the information related to this case as it becomes available. The spokesman declined to comment further. Her time there appeared normal for the most part, but there were some problems. She was reportedly driving through Haverhill, New Hampshire, when she crashed her car and got stuck in a ditch. Kate was Mauras closest friend at UMass. On the call with Maura after the Hadley accident, On why so many calls to Kate on Sunday morning, On accessing the phone records and voicemail, edit new: On the gloves (as scent article). She wore them a few times Im aware of, likely more. Police also believed that Murray may have been trying to kill herself, and even put out a press release two days after she first went missing that she was possibly suicidal. Her father has denied this suggestion: She was in good spirits and had no worries or reason to run away from her life.. I basically copy/pasted his answers to questions, took out filler and organized into categories. I dont recall if it had a garage (there may have been one). I basically copy/pasted his answers to questions, took out filler and organized into categories. A review of his phone records revealed a 3 minute call to Maura's cell phone the Saturday after the disappearance, when he was in New Hampshire as part of the search. As a reminder, we encourage all users to read the subreddit rules and keep all discussion civil and respectful. I still dont know what happened, just like most of you. I dont see how saying (over and over) she had an affair with a GA humanizes her bc its a lie. . On the email/note said to be left in the dorm room, There was no recently received personal note on top of boxes when I was in her dorm room. I want to focus on Maura tho and avoid the drama. Quit making excuses for him, and Im not distracted by EL podcast or her objective to change the narrative. Does that make sense? Access to Mauras VM was gained after and bc she disappeared. I believe Im the only one on reddit that was in her dorm room and I do not know if Maura packed it up or if she never unpacked it. There is the possibility that Murray paid cash because she was unable to use credit cards (perhaps past due). After that phone call - while his girlfriend is still missing - he goes completely silent for five days. Who knows. Im sure they have their reasons (some good some not so good maybe), but its regrettable they havent released more. We assumed she took her backpack bc it was unaccounted for. Sprint had a national network. Interestingly enough, a contractor who had been passing by on Route 112 that night later reported seeing a young person moving eastbound on foot a few miles away from the scene of the accident around 8 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. While I'm unsure exactly who believes Maura's disappearance was a DUI walk away, that theory was far from my mind after speaking with Fred the evening of February 10th. I did discuss the email with LE while answering their questions about the topic of the email. I remember at least one officer going into the room with us, altho both may have. to be clear I do not know if Maura packed up her room or never unpacked. I owned it until 2009 when I traded it in on a new car. They can cry crocodile tears and turn that off without a flinch, at the bat of an eye. In fact, we were going through flyers so quickly, a printing press co. in OH cranked out an additional 5k and overnighted them to us in NH the local office store in NH couldnt keep pace with flyer production. re tomboy, she def was and elegant at the same time. Time under the code and severity of the offense are two key factors in determining the outcome of a cadet who violates the Honor Code. Into believing that he is the salt of the earth. I agree that everyone seems to be at a loss for why she left UMASS. Coronavirus, Carry-out Critic It was ~6/8mi in length from what I remember. Not calling her dorm room like he always has done is especially telling. Her smile and laugh are what anyone would remember most. I believe the unaccounted for backpack was one she had from West Point. She would literally jump from a tree top into the Saco river one day, and the next day be the most radiant woman at any formal event. This is a good example, bc I remember being at the house in Hanson and her going through old photos and seeing one similar (maybe the same one?) My mother and I provided Mauras phone records (and mine) in full to the NHSP, Helena Murray, producers at 20/20 and others. Film/TV Assuming that Murray did not kill herself and did not succumb to the elements while in hiding, where would she have gone? Remembering Maura on her 38th Birthday. Books Most notably, a search of her dorm room revealed that she had packed up most of her belongings into boxes before she left. https://twitter.com/RauschB/status/1258011895849725954. I did find an email from 02 tucked into the pages of a basketball program that was beside her desk. MAURA MURRAY - BILL RAUSCH: THE LOST INTERVIEWLISTEN to the FULL PODCAST here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOoM-c_92i4LISTEN to the FULL SERIES here -htt. It was unseasonably warm, Pattison remembers, so they left their jackets in the office. Maura Murray Update -- Bill Rausch's Alibi Prosecutors Podcast 11.8K subscribers Subscribe 211 5.2K views 2 years ago Was Bill Rausch in Oklahoma on February 9, 2004? On the way out, Pattison got locked between the two sets of doors, and Rausch, who was still in the office but did not accompany the group to the bar, came to let her out. I believe Bill Rausch was in town to retrieve his gifts to Maura by the time her first accident occurred, which I theorize he caused both of them. Performance/Dance Bc cell coverage was unreliable and unpredictable no one left on random trips. Mark Mcilyar Fitness Program for Men? And there were no footprints found in the snow leading to the woods, meaning that she wouldve had to escape on the road, likely moving east of the accident scene (since that area was not inspected during the first search). A hotel room with your folks beats a crummy dorm room any day of the week IMO. I arrived in NH on Feb 11, 2004 and helped search for Maura along side the Murrays, my parents, and Mauras friends. Perhaps this is due to some bump in the road between him and Maura's relationship, and that is the way he would react normally. The Mysterious Disappearance Of Maura Murray, The Nursing Student Who Vanished Without A Trace. New Hampshire State Police declined to comment on potential suspects. Maura Murrays damaged car, which was left abandoned after her disappearance. I did believe it to be a woman (again watch the ID ep). Both my mother and I speak to the VM and what it sounded like. Did I read this correctly? She was never afraid of Fred. journalism. Her whereabouts remain unknown. I recall standing beside her desk when I read/saw the email. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Victim is asking police to look into his whereabouts in the days following Maura's disappearance." James Renner on Twitter View attachment 177977 Could y'all even imagine if it's proven that he was the reason she disappeared. FYSA: The River was covered in snow/ice in the days after her disappearance altho you could hear the water running underneath it. The one Im referring to which motivated us to beg NHSP to ask for help from the FBI was right off an exit on I-91 so likely a different one. In the office alone, though, Pattison says Rausch admitted that he pushed her. The gloves Im thinking of were a gift from me to her Christmas, 2003. Change). Personal feelings aside, some of the items that Murray had packed in her car such as birth control pills, tooth whitener, and college textbooks have led many to believe that she was not intending to die that day. I dont believe Maura did anything wrong. Gear Prudence The disappearance of Maura Murray has remained a mystery since she went missing in 2004. Not nearly as lovely as her but the best I could afford back then! He reported that the driver was a young woman who appeared to be shaken up, but unharmed. Washington. Beyond cute, 100%! On the jacket Maura was wearing in the ATM video, On the backpack/duffel bag (this is the pic of Kathleen at the motel). But the mysterious young woman was nowhere to be found. Folks should really check out the Discovery ID episode. If that accident doesnt happen, I believe strongly that Maura would be with us today. I assume we used those phones as well. She would be a great mother and partner to whomever was lucky enough to have married her, maybe even me. Bill was Mauras boyfriend when she went missing in February 2004 and has been sharing his recollections of Maura, her disappearance, and the subsequent search. In Iraq, my Commander made the decision to approve my leave in a matter of seconds. We did not independently verify this, altho I wish we had given the issues/problems with the police investigation we later discovered (LE not interviewing witnesses, not calling phone numbers Maura called the day she disappeared, refusing help from the FBI, etc). But that charge was supposed to be dismissed as long as she maintained good behavior for three months. Much like Maura Murrays mugshot, this image has been widely described as unsettling. Rauschs arraignment in D.C. Superior Court was originally scheduled for this morning but was postponed until April 17. Public DomainMaura Murrays mugshot, which was taken after she was arrested for credit card fraud. This was one of many things that Murrays father Fred who was only informed about his missing daughter 24 hours after the crash would criticize about how the police handled the search. I realize that Maura had morphed into a fictional character that did not accurately reflect who she was as a person. I find it interesting that so many people are attached to theories, On the police investigation and release of records. in promoting certain theories over others. He told me Maura's car was found on the side of the road in New Hampshire and Maura was nowhere to be found. I also recall receiving the VM in question after going thru security at the airport. The Golden State Killer used very similar language in one of his calls to a previous victim. She loved it there and I loved being there with her. Bob McLean is a West Point grad I knew at school. Bill was determined to have stalked his ex-girlfriend. I had not heard the theory/idea that Maura never unpacked until an hours long convo with the producers of the Oxygen special who asked me if it was possible she never unpacked. Obviously, the best way to rule that theory out is to get the word out on Mauras case to ensure that EVERYONE knows who she is so we can find that good samaritan if they exist. Many a reference to both of those in old letters as well. Until they discover they have been had. While authorities have acknowledged the possibility that Murray is still out there somewhere, they think its extremely unlikely. We made each other mix cds constantly for the other person to listen to and would often recite lyrics to some of our fav songs when writing each other. She also stopped by the Registry of Motor Vehicles and picked up the forms for her car accident. What are the chances that your boyfriend or girlfriend will go missing without a trace? I still wonder if people realize that he drove to NH every weekend for years and years searching for Maura. I totally get why folks do that but look at it from my perspective. Something other folks are also passionate about: http://4000footers.com/nh.shtml. While I do not believe someone other than Maura drove the Saturn to NH, I admit that nearly anything is possible. After reading about the disappearance of Maura Murray, check out the baffling missing-person case of Tammy Lynn Leppert. Others believe it wasnt unpacked as she had just moved into the room ~1 week earlier. Working together I believe we will find Maura. Esp given all the shoes Fred wore out over the years looking for Maura. Maura was the loveliest of girls, she really was. Fred coordinated most everything altho obvi there was plenty of cross talk. Few have done more to find Maura and I am proud to be associated with them. The first time I heard the theory of Maura not unpacking her room was during an hours long phone call I had with the Texas Crew Productions team prior to the release of the Oxygen series. So did other people familiar to the case. Someone broke her fall, and she says she looked up and saw Rausch turning the corner at the top. I do not remember my connection so its possible, perhaps likely, it was DFW. On a good samaritan theory (picked up by good samaritan). I believe the watch (I bought it at the cadet store at West Point) was with her necklace and possibly diamond earrings I gave her as gifts. pg 9) and lies via reddit posts, blogs, tweets, etc. For others, it seems they get fixated on her troubles. The evening of the 11th we met Fred and LE at the police station where we received an update from LE. Maura Murray Missing/MySpace Maura Murray's boyfriend Bill Rausch has been accused of sexual misconduct against other women. Hes said on Twitter that he was granted leave to search for Murray after he found out shed gone missing. While the conditions could have been different prior to our arrival, the fact remains that none of our footprints were masked over in the way you describe for many days. She was extremely confident of her abilities while not being aggressive. Although that mindset is possible, there are other explanations that may be revealing. My mother might remember, but unfortunately I do not. For all the talk of theories, the idea that someone with good intentions giving her a ride somewhere has fallen by the way side. Loose Lips He told me Maura's car was found on the side of the road in New Hampshire and Maura was nowhere to be found. Ive shared the story of Maura hitch hiking many times before. It took about a year and a half from the time she reported the incident to police a second time to when Rausch was indicted. Same goes for assuming she was wearing her dark winter coat. Beyond cute, 100%! I consider all of those individuals to be extremely honorable and respectful people who knew and loved Maura dearly. I had a good job, close friends and a loving girlfriend; Maura Murray. I did not participate in any helicopter flights/searches during this time and the phone records were for my phone and Mauras phone only. Its possible she also used Yahoo messenger but given LE do not mention AIM, it leads me to assume they confused the two.
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