I hope you understand my english, im not a native speaker. The girls phone records later showed that they started making their initial distress calls on their cell phones approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes after their last known daytime photo (Photo 508). Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. Honestly Ive hiked by myself before on a well known trail by my college and when I saw the American flag waving in the middle of the woods I was more scared than anything!!! & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? The ambulatory friend began to assess how she might reach her friend, but underestimated the difficulty involved, thereby becoming less able to extricate herself from the jungle. 9.3 million tourists visited Australia in 2019 (year ending June 2019). Notice how Juan has actively injected false information into the public investigation, including a picture of 4 people standing in a pond with heavily photo edited faces (one of them has their head moved off of the neck in a very obvious edit). Im not saying that I dont think foul play was involved. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). The Velleman family had been in touch with several Wisconsin and Illinois representatives as they sought assistance from the U.S. government in the search and recovery effort. JW, I agree with you totally, thanks for your intelligent remarks! Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail.
Small-town America no more? Tourism gains have made Panama City Beach I would certainly buy it if it had been printed in English. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. Much information is second hand. In Central America, dogs arent usually seen as something to protect and cuddle. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. All of it couldve just gone away.? He has a reasonable explanation for why she is having to bend down, and he found video where you can see a turn to the left where kris is. What if she was trying to get fire with the mirror and the paper? For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. Unfortunately we dont have a lot of answers to your questions. https://i.postimg.cc/3xK4Pdmb/Kris-Kremers-Full-Photo-Highest-Res-auto-x1-1-photos-v2-faces-x2-colored-toned.jpg. Someone with darkish skin. What people are mistaking as swelling of the right eye/cheek is simply the sunlight highlighting the contours of the right side of her face while the left side is in shadow, probably combined with squinting of the right eye due to the bright light. How come there are so many disappearances in S. America PANAMA CITY BEACH Local officials agree that traffic is the No. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32.
A decade under Maduro, migration marks Venezuelans' lives I just find it strange that no video diary or fotos of each other made after 508. I think the girls were made or persuaded against their wishes and by persons unknown, to go beyond the end of the Pianista trail to goodness knows where! ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. Cave photo:
Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home thank you for sharing this. In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. I do believe that this appears to be some sort of structure though, it does seem like some vines / branches have been woven together to form some sort of hut and even the AI enhancement would not make the blue appear on the floor so distinctly, the color and look almost reminds me of a scrap of denim like material? US Is Europe's No. These were standard vacation photos that two young women would take while traveling. I believe that the case was handled so poorly that it leads one to believe that it was intentionally handled as such. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. Debra Ann Velleman, 70, of Waukesha, Wisconsin, and Sue Borries, 57, of Teutopolis, Illinois, both retired public school teachers, were part of a community of snowbirds and expats living in the area of Chame, Panama. And theyre gaining steam in recent years. Blue is an uncommon color in the rainforest for anything of that size. It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. Despite these . If someone can determine a gang affiliation for that image, it might be possible to determine where the traffickers were from. Perhaps the girls were lured there and that is where they met their horrible fate. If you look at her shirt, it appears to be red and white striped. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . Even a subtle untimely laugh behind a mans back in Latin America can create a hostile situation if the women were alone later. This makes no sense. Jumping to conclusions too early, or on the basis of too little and incorrect information is likely to lead to the wrong conclusions. January 4, 2023. Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? The BLUE object on ground could be a BRA. I have seen comment to suggest that they could have made the trip to the divide returned and then gone to another place but then why no more fotos on either phone or camera? However, its still possible. This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. the only strange element in this photo is the distance. I think Juan is actively trying to protect this human trafficking agency. It appears to me that Kris has her right arm to her right temple and you can see part of her left elbow. I believe that the LA Times article is more informative, so Ive updated the link in my writing above. Before that, in image 507 & 508, you can see Kris in a stiff, nervous posture, because the girls saw someone they were afraid of closing in. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. Thank you, and keep up the good work. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. The first thing that strikes me as very odd in this photograph and I think I havent seen anyone pointing that out yet -, is a specific number. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. When she finally reached her friend, it was basically too late, or very close to it. I no longer believe there was any mirror; What we see is instead is the lid of a soft food container (you can see the food stuck around the edges). The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. Who knows if the girls really went for a walk that day by themselves? Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. What is peculiar is that there were no attempts to contact anyone other than the emergency services. The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. Hi Oliver, I do believe that theres enough evidence to conclude that some of the photos were graphically edited (photoshopped) but I dont think this photo was manipulated. They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. Dimedes Abrego - 12 years in prison. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. Is there a particular name, symbol or color associated with the gang? Thats what I see as well. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System reported that more than 600,000 people go missing in the US every year, but the majority are quickly . For the most part, foreigners are just caught in the middle. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. Hi Mohaiminul, you mention some good questions. Im starting to think the girls were lured to Panama by some kind of human trafficking organization that might even be run out of the Netherlands. Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? You need to be a Photoshop wizard of substantial level to even attempt this and it would take absolute ages. And why? Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? Could be that they were trying to avoid somebody on the trail, went off the oath & got lost. And that looks to be a stocker style stand. Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. Also I see a black pipe if you look carefully near one of the red and black objects the one that was circled. They lose their money and leave Panama with their lives. . Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. It also looks like that red item is around her neck as well. Here is the comparison: The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. Thats the very first thing that crossed my mind. Hey Im not sure if someone already pointed it out but does everyone see the orange drawing on the bottom right? While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. Sadly, shortly after, she meets someone she fears and call the police. If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. In fact, its probable to some degree. Unfortunately the resolution is not high enough to identify any specific shapes, although it appears to contain the colors white and red. Search shoe with foot in it found.
International visitor arrivals in Panama 2021 | Statista Maybe you can find more answers about this horrible story. A group of tourists have gone missing in an infamous Russian mountain pass where nine people died under mysterious circumstances more than 60 years ago. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. What I find most concerning is her face. They place the evidence where it can be found, brining the matter to a close. It seems likely it was tribal. Its interesting to hear that you are considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. I know that in previous photos there are trenches like this one naturally occurring throughout the jungle due to erosion, but this one doesnt appear to be from that. Too many coincidences. Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. The limited number of attempts especially on the first day is very strange. Unfortunately, this camera setting is not public knowledge, but the default mode is Continuous.. I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. Perhaps this stranger had suggested he could guide them on a more interesting trail, or show them something interesting in the jungle. Its disturbing. Throughout the years people have hiked the disappearance route, I wonder if this structure was found there and investigated. Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. Hi Chris, good question. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. Hi Carin, thanks for your comment. Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. Be careful. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position. All facts are not available in this case. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Her hair is also too clean and shiny for someone who has been out in the jungle for 8 days. The local jungle tribes people have been looking for the girls. Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. I think Kris was about to have a quick look in a man-made structure she had stumbled across just to explore. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. The blood on her leg is, again, a shadow. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. It doesnt matter. To me, this photo says it all. Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. Rocko Akira Clapp. Two young women, who dont take any risks, go for a trip in the jungle and get lost in a mysterious way? Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. In the first half of this year, tourist arrivals fell globally by more than 65 percent, with a near halt since Aprilcompared with 8 percent during the global financial crisis and 17 percent amid the SARS epidemic of 2003, according to ongoing IMF research on tourism in a post-pandemic world. THANK GOD SOMEONE IS SEEING WHAT I SEE. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. The lower orange being around the belly area. Hi Rune (and Stian), great points. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. The backpack had no scratches, no marks, the camera and mobile phones inside are as good as new. This lady, Pitti, she is under much suspicion as she practically botched the investigation efforts with her repeated lack of discipline in collecting and documenting and directing the case. They could have been a target early on. EERIE photos discovered on a camera belonging to two missing hikers revealed their mysterious final moments before both girls vanished in the jungle in Panama. There is definitely a face on that the post/tree to the right of Kris. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. I never received a response. Perplexing to say the least. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Right on the bank of the river/stream. Despite search teams, which included dogs and.
Its almost as if Kris is in the midst of turning back around at the moment this photo is taken, due to the foliage becoming too dense to proceed any further. Thank you for reading. Even the bones, the few that remain. Why? Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. Certainly, each country around the world offers valuable experiences in their own way. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. Also the severity of the situation would dictate the time to the first SOS call. As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? I am from Panama, and I know that there are way more dangerous drug and crime cartels active in remote parts of the country than officials want to admit to because the tourism would be affected. The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. Debra Ann Velleman's husband, Anthony Velleman, another passenger and the pilot were rescued by Panamanian search and rescue teams. Then I downloaded the photo and opened it up in my graphics editor. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. Slight left and up from the girl. More than 100 pictureswere on the camera; the first few looked like normal tourist photos with the womensmiling together. https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html. The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. Rights of initiation? I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. I have seen some gruesome stuff where a captor will smash the feet of a captive to prevent escape. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. There are . i found it hard to understand and pickup any of the highlighted objects.i grew up in a tropical country and spent a lot of my childhood exploring woods and secondary jungles around my home with my friendsthe way i see it is that the girl have encountered a thick unpenetrable undergrowth at the end of some sort of a gorge.maybe in an effort to find a way through or out of it.when youre at ground level in a jungle its just a green world and colour hues jumbled up in some sort of a mess.and after a while you started noticing odds shapes n colours through the leavesoccassinally there will be thrash thrown around.just my thoughts. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. All Froon and Kremers photos were taking with phones and a camera from six years ago, probably jpeg, with all the associated algorithm issues, let alone we have no idea of the provenance of the photos we are all seeing, I doubt any of it is first generation copies straight from the devices, and every time we copy a photo we risk changing the data somewhat. However, upon closer inspection, shes really ducking her head as to say look at the things over my head. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? She is obviously excited by the weird place they have found. Thanks and cheers. Where did you hear this? I just want to agree with Chris and the poster JW that she is shading her eyes with her right arm up. However, amiscommunication led to them arriving in Boquete too early for their program, which Kremersnoted was "rude and not at all friendly" in a diary entry. She is looking down to the left and appears to be shocked by what she sees. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. It begins to rain. In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. Its all speculation until more answers are found. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. Chris, I hope you and a team go but I also understand, in the present age of uncertainty, if you dont. I think murder is quite likely. Where is the Ping for that time? They took a swim before the trip with to local young man the same day they went in the forest. The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. He believes he is working for God. Hi Anna, youre casting a wide net when you say If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist.. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. I believe that by the time this photo was taken, the situation has gone sideways. 3. Foul play is very likely. The internet does not have the most crucial information about the case. Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. So, these were all indigenous locals influenced by another villager that had traveled abroad. Perhaps someone has just hit Kris on the right side of her head and she is putting her hand up to where it hurts. Dutch tourists in Panama Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004.